Petition to Stop the New UNC Scooter Regulations
UNC is looking to create new regulations which will (amongst other things) force scooter riders to pay for non-secure, inconvenient parking. These regulations are being passed without due transparency, and could represent legal, ecological, traffic and parking problems.
For all of these reasons, we the undersigned ask you to sign our petition to stop the new UNC Scooter Policy before it can be put into place.
For more information, please see our letter to the Board of Trustees. You can also visit our Facebook Group, see the NBC 17 News coverage about the issue, read the first article, opinion piece, or the most recent article from the Daily Tar Heel, see the article from InTouch, the UNC employee Newsletter, check out the WCHL radio interview, the Chapel Hill News/Raleigh News & Observer article, or the article in The Independent Weekly.
Update: The Board of Trustees met on July 22nd, and came up with a modified version of the regulations, and though we spoke out against it at the Board of Trustees meeting on July 23rd, the new changes were passed. A summary of our objections to the proposal can be found in the speech we gave, and a discussion of the results of the meeting can be found at our post meeting update.
What's next?
We plan to work with the Department of Public Safety and the Advisory Committee for Transportation to find additional scooter parking options on campus, to ensure that future fees don't rise to hundreds of dollars a year, and to advocate for scooter commuters on campus. You can help by contributing ideas for good parking areas and letting us know your opinions on how to make UNC a scooter-friendly environment.
Thanks for all of your good work! Please continue to help us work on this!
Brian Moynihan, Student
Stop the new scooter regulations! They were enacted in haste, and deserve much more input by interested parties.
Lara Handler, Staff
UNC often touts the importance of environmentally-friendly transportation, and yet it is now trying to impinge upon one of the most eco-friendly modes of transportation. It doesn't make any sense. We need to *encourage* people to ride scooters, not find new ways of discouraging them.
Jet Schmidt, Citizen
Scooters mean less traffic, more parking spaces, cleaner air, and smaller carbon footprints. Let's make Chapel Hill a scooter-friendly place.
Steven Gordon, Staff
UNC claims it wants to promote alternative transportation and then it proposes this. A completely regressive policy that should not be passed.
Marty Pomerantz, Staff
I purchased a 50 cc scooter specifically to save gas (good for OUR environment) and part at bike racks (where I can lock up my scooter). If the issue is keeping scooters off walkways, locate racks closer to the road and make riding on walkways illegal.
Ildar Sagdejev, Citizen
Scooters are an advanced mode of personal transportation, which ought to be fully encouraged given our changing climate and limited fossil fuel supplies!
Michael Clemmons, Student
I'm alum. I think scooters are just bikes with motors and you don't charge for bike.
Lawrence Rosenfeld, Faculty
It defies all logic to do anything that would limit the access of scooters on this campus.
Susan Swogger, Staff
If they're worried about scooters using bike parking, create more parking for both! I don't ride a bike or a scooter, and I still think there should be twice as much parking for each.
Lisa McCoig, Student
Jake Achey, Staff
I mean, come on! I know there are very difficult budget issues going on, but why give the shaft to environmentally conscious students/employees. If anything the state should be promoting more environmentally friendly transportation instead of penalizing.
Lisa Stevens, Student
"If the issue is keeping scooters off walkways, locate racks closer to the road and make riding on walkways illegal". I agree with this statement. Let's encourage scooter usage by offering free spaces so that more students and faculty will leave their leave cars at home.
Casey Nordell, Staff
Do it for the environment!
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I do not own a scooter, but I support owners' easy access to free parking on campus. A friend of mine had both of his unchained scooters stolen in town. Requiring that scooters remain unchained will, without a doubt, lead to more scooter theft, increasing the incidents of crime on UNC's campus.
Andrea Wood, Staff
Cristóbal M. Palmer, Student
As a scooter owner, I would be happy to work with UNC officials to address concerns over safety and fairness in parking, but asking scooter users to pay for and park in motorcycle spaces is not a reasonable solution to any scooter-related problems.
vanessa floyd, Citizen
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Emily Nurminen, Student
Michael Andre, Staff
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We must transition away from a car culture, and in favor of smaller vehicles like scooters.
Rhea Patel, Student
Scooter regulations mean more cars around Chapel Hill. Please don't make the parking problem and traffic congestion worse. Help UNC promote more environmentally-friendly transportation.
Patrick Harper, Student
Bevin Tighe, Citizen
Scooter riders are leaving more parking spaces for those who must use cars and reducing traffic congestion and air pollution for all of us who live in the area. Scooter use frees up valuable car parking resources on campus and in town, and this policy will discourage that civic-minded choice. It passing rules like these when students aren't on campus to respond is short-sighted and out of character with the spirit of the University. These rules would also expose more students, faculty and staff to vehicle theft. Please don't tempt criminals to make their rounds in our community.
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Della French, Staff
Ricky Spero, Student
We should be doing all we can to reduce traffic congestion and petroleum consumption in Chapel Hill. As long as reasonable safety concerns are addressed, scooters and other motorbikes should be allowed and encouraged around campus and throughout Chapel Hill.
Penny Ward, Staff
As others have said, if walkway safety is an issue, enforce those regulations--for bicycles as well as for scooters. (I've come close to being hit numerous times by bicycles zipping through campus, but have never encountered a scooter being ridden on a sidewalk.) But please don't impose expensive and unsafe parking regulations on scooters, especially at a time when we should be encouraging environmentally-friendly transportation alternatives.
jamie Bort, Student
Compared to automobiles scooters are benign. Please do not restrict us scooter useres.
David Cline, Staff
I agree that it makes little sense to "punish" those attempting to practice greener transportation, especially those who have already invested in a solution seemingly endorsed by the University. If the problem is scooters on walkways, then Public Safety need only move bike racks closer to roadways, issue tickets for riding on a walkway with the motor engaged (I would never do this anyway), or both. At the very least, it seems fair that those who currently commute to campus on a scooter as a way of promoting cleaner transport should be "grandfathered in" under previous rules. A lot of people invested between one and two thousand dollars in scooters just for this commute in an attempt to do their part. (Some sort of a scooter permit with display sticker could be granted to current owners.) However, I fear that the real motivation for changing this rule is simple greed inspired by a potential new revenue stream. I urge the Board of Trustees to reverse their ruling.
Colleen Volz, Student
John Derrick, Citizen
Aren't scooters to be encouraged for the sake of all concerned, including the environment and the Uni? -- Undergrad, Law, RA, TA, and Lifetime GAA
Brian Landau, Citizen
By no means should scooters be penalized they pollute the earth less, are more community friendly, and reduce traffic on the roads! Save the Scooterers!
deanna wung, Student
Reed Palmer, Citizen
Adrian Hands, Citizen
I don't own a scooter, but prefer to share the road with vehicles less likely to kill or maim me.
Lisa Vaccarelli, Citizen
Please help the environment and our community.
Robert (R.J.) Vaccarelli, Staff
I ride a 50 cc scooter for environmental and economic reasons. If UNC-CH wants to call itself progressive and be known for helping the environment and people who need help economically, why charge the very people who are working hard on this more money for trying to do the right thing? Why take away some of the advantages of using scooters, especially when you are already increasig health premiums, and putting us on furloughs?
Nathan Lamb, Student
It would be a huge step away from the goal campus sustainability to limit or discourage the use of alternative, low-emissions vehicles on UNC's campus.
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Heather barnes, Citizen
Do not discourage an ecofriendly practice that enhances UNC community life.
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It is a great way for people to get to campus. It saves them money and saves the environment.
Jonathan Tarleton, Student
Katherine Pollok, Student
Alea Morren, Staff
How about providing special spaces for scooter parking, esp. if the problem is bike rack clutter.
Erin Crouse, Citizen
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Patrick Boleman, Student
People choose to drive scooters as a cheap, convenient, and more sustainable alternative to vehicles and it almost seems as if UNC is attempting to undermine this
Rebecca L., Student
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Lydia Chang, Faculty
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Derek Lundberg, Student
I'm a grad student at UNC. I was an undergrad. I've been living here 8 years. I do not own a scooter but ride a regular pedal bike. In my opinion scooters are basically just bikes and not that much bigger. Anyone who is not driving a bulky car should be rewarded.
Chad Deisenroth, Student
Where's the evidence that scooters are creating a "safety hazard for pedestrians"? Scooters are no more disruptive to traffic flow and pedestrian safety than bicycles. They should be afforded the same regulations outlined under state law. Requiring scooter parking permits sounds like a desperate measure for revenue generation to subsidize current budget cuts.
Katie Williams, Student
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I agree these regulations need to be reconsidered as to whether they are solving a problem that needs to be addressed, or simply creating problems that weren't there in the first place.
Matthew Stonebraker, Citizen
This is completely ridiculous. All vehicle owners deserve the right to safe parking! A very close friend of mine had her scooter stolen and with regulations like these it will continue to happen.
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Dipa Desai, Student
Micheal Palmer, Citizen
Inconveniencing scooter operators will create problems for all drives in Chapel Hill, not just UNC students. Fewer scooters means more cars. Please do all you can to encourage scooter use, not discourage it.
Jill Trufant, Staff
Jacob Sharp, Student
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It's rather ironic and a good deal hypocritical that UNC "supports" being ecologically friendly, and yet plans on hampering, even punishing, one of the easiest and best ways to do it.
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David Jaramillo, Student
Why make being environmentally friendly expensive for the student, do not bear the costs of the school further upon the student
L.M. Stärke, Staff
The new scooter policy makes no sense for a campus low on parking and high on supposed eco-sensitivity. Engage the community for problem resolution.
Charles Olbert, Staff
This is not a good way to make money. Repeat after me: screwing the layperson via (in the grand scheme of the university) small fees is not a good way to make up million dollar deficits.
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boo big government
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Seamus Kenney, Citizen
Max Felsher, Staff
Maria Ikenberry, Citizen
Chris Zieber, Student
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Danny Nowell, Student
Lauren McCay, Student
Sarah L Mickler, Citizen
Arturo Escobar, Faculty
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Lauren Davis, Student
Gali Beeri, Staff
Amanda Fox, Citizen
I graduated from UNC last year, and rode my bike to campus. I can honestly say that the scooters don't really take up that much space, and that the smarter solution would be to put in more bike racks or scooter-specific parking.
Lauren Thie, Citizen
School of Public Health Graduate, 2009
Robert Andrew Smith, Citizen
I think a sensible policy on scooters should be worked out by a broad group of interested citizens, faculty, staff, and students in a manner consistent with inclusion, fairness, open dialogue, and thorough deliberation. UNC CH, as an institution of higher learning, can certainly do better in its sustainability standing with a framework such as this.
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Amy Burnett, Student
Liane Salgado, Citizen
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It seems to me that UNC would want to encourage, not discourage, transportation by scooter rather than by driving a car.
Brandon Rice, Student
Amy Schaich, Staff
I don't ride one, but to me they are like bicycles not motorcycles
Reid Johnson, Staff
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While there are concerns relating to scooters, this regulation is not the solution. More bike racks, closer to roadways, would help keep scooters off the sidewalks rather than requiring scooter owners to get a motorcycle permit.
Mary Robbins, Staff
Eileen Slade, Citizen
We should be encouraging, not discouraging, use of vehicles that reduce our community's carbon footprint.
Vera Bonardi, Staff
I have a motorbike and I pay the annual parking permit. The place where the motorbikes can park is already quite limited. Changing the rules would mean that the limited parking for motorcycle would be overcrowded. I bought a motorcycle because I was tired of the awful parking conditions for cars on campus. If I now have to fight against scooters to find a spot, the conditions would turn back to the same as before. This is quite frankly one of the most terrible idea I have ever heard.
Vincent Gonzalez, Student
These regulations have been advanced in a way that does not properly represent UNC. I look forward to seeing how the Board will reconcieve them through cooperation with those most informed and most affected.
Kenneth Reed, Staff
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Katie Herzog, Student
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Sarah Kahn, Citizen
As an alumna of UNC, I strongly oppose this policy. When I was a grad student, I depended on my scooter for transportation. I lived too close to campus to get a parking pass, and I worked evenings after the bus stopped running. Without my scooter, I would have been left to walk alone at night to Carrboro. Students who commute to UNC do not have a lot of options. Please don't take this one away from them.
Scott Morningstar, Staff
Please reconsider these regulations. We need to do more to encourage people to use alternative transportation not tax them. I am a bike rider and I am happy to share the bike rack with scooters.
Joan Walsh, Staff
Any means of transportation that serves as an alternative to cars should be encouraged, although the free Chapel Hill bus service is a great alternative to all forms of solo transport.
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Julie M. Forster, Student
Margaret Dickson, Staff
Joe Caparo, Student
As previously noted by several here, if the issue is keeping scooters off walkways then you should locate racks closer to the road and make riding on walkways illegal. When the University penalizes users of alternative transportation - while at the same time espousing a pro-green philosophy - it comes across as hypocritical.
Brooks Rainey Pearson, Student
I bought a scooter because I could park it at the bike rack on campus. It was convenient, saved parking and gas, and should remain an option for students.
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beckie moriello, Citizen
I'm a UNC alum and used to commute via scooter. Campus traffic would be improved by more scooters, not fewer.
Most of the world recognizes that scooters are a superior form of urban transit. Let's prove how worldly UNC is.
Eric Forster, Citizen
I am an alumnus of the graduate school. I was a scooter-commuter during my time at UNC. Many concerned individuals have made good arguments on the merits of keeping scooter parking free on the UNC campus. Here is one I have not seen, that I think you, the Board of Trustees, will understand: if you charge a fee for scooter parking, I will never donate a single penny to your institution.
Andrew Arnold, Citizen
Chapel Hill resident and 2002 alumnus.
Laura Windley, Citizen
I attended law school at UNC and rode my scooter to campus every day for two years. As an alumnus and practicing attorney, I still use the law library for research and it is essential that I have a reliable way of being able to access the law library. I do not have access to student or staff parking and many times the pay lot near the law school is reserved for functions. There is ample bicycle parking at the law school and no one has complained about scooters dispacing bikes, even when there were six scooterists riding to the law school. Furthermore, it is much easier to steal a scooter than a motorcycle. With another person, I can lift my 200 pound scooter into a truck to be taken away. Without proper security, bicycles parked in motorcycle parking would be stolen, especially a scooter like my restored 1964 Vespa. I was very disappointed to hear about this change in policy.
John L Miller, Staff
Please do not introduce new costs for those attempting to save money!
Madison Bullard, Student
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Scooters are helping keep the gas price down in this area... think about how bad it will get
Peter Pendergrass, Student
Joseph Gindi, Student
Lucian Cobb, Citizen
Ariel Wyman, Student
Scooters are convenient for everyone; they reduce parking problems and are more environmentally friendly than cars. Don't punish those who choose to ride them!
Barry Saunders, Faculty
Any new regs should be discussed properly across the community. If bikes are being displaced from bike racks, we need more racks--&/or some designated for scooter parking. IF fees must be charged, rate should be fair & student-affordable.
Sarah Arnold, Student
Elizabeth Trivette, Student
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O. Alaba, Student
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Marit Nelson, Student
please don't make it harder for people to not drive cars.
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Pamela, Student
Allison Groux, Citizen
Kevin Tice, Citizen
Sean Caye, Staff
Yep.
Kat Loeven, Student
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Benjamin Bogardus, Student
I see no reason why scooters can't be put on bike racks. These regulations sound stupid and are a real waste of time.
Elyssa Sanner, Student
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Paige Smith, Student
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Motorcycle Parking is already saturated during the summer, becoming competitive and nurturing illegal parking by motorcycles during the school year, so where will scooters go? They'll be parking illegally, in the same place they were parking before. This is an absolute waste of money for everyone involved, and a mark of shame for the BoT.
Martha Carlough, Faculty
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With parking for any vehicle already at a premium on campus, and the annual decrease in the number of car spaces allotted to departments, why make a decision that would require taking up *more* space in already-crowded lots? Why make commuting more inconvenient rather than less so? I agree that this is regressive policy, passed without the opportunity for thorough discussion by all concerned parties.
Pierre Barker, Faculty
This has to be one of the most short sighted decisions ever considered by the Board. I will without question revert to my car to drive to UNC every day as there will be no advantage to me riding the scooter. Apart from trying to do my part for the environment, the convenience of easy parking is my major incentive.
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scooters need to be parked in a place where they can be locked up. they are smaller and not as heavy as motorcycles and could be picked up and taken away in a truck. I don't wish to feel like my scooter is unsafe while parked at UNC.
Glenn Boothe, Citizen
I ride a scooter and I think the sets a bad precedent for the town.
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Jacquelyn Huntington, Student
I do not appreciate the way the university seems to be pushing such regulations while many of the concerned body is away. There must be proper input. I feel the regulations are also unnecessary, being a move that would ultimately discourage scooters-- an unobtrusive and environmentally-friendly transportation option. Please don't do this. It is uncalled for.
Nikki McKnight, Student
Arielle Wright, Student
Phil Hammond, Citizen
Amy Wilkinson, Student
Marc Weinberg, Staff
My scooter is my means of getting in early and staying late at the lab. We are working hard for this university and need every minute. So why give us unnecessary difficulties for no good reason? Please consider the low impact our scooters really have on campus and their benefit, rather then their concern to UNC.
Christina Pelech, Citizen
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Buddy Whitman, Student
After having my scooter stolen from in front of Thurston Bowles building on campus last year, I park and secure my scooter to bike racks religiously. The option of locking scooter is not available at motorcycle parking spots and is an invitation for additional scooter thefts. I cannot afford the loss of another 00 scooter. I will be selling mine if this policy goes through. It is simply a matter of security.
Jennifer Rice, Staff
Christa Martin, Student
Christina, Staff
Mark Katz, Faculty
Raisa Sagdejeva, Student
Amanda Garrand, Staff
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This is unfair. We should reward people for driving vehicles that are better for the environment, not push them away or charge them for parking that is already limited.
Suzanne Michalak, Student
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If they start charging for scooter parking, I will have to start using the over-filled park and rides again instead! I will not park my scooter where it cannot be safely locked. UNC should be more forward thinking and support those who choose more environmentally friendly transportation!
Elizabeth DuVall, Student
Riding scooters to work greatly reduces our carbon footprints and are efficient for so many students, staff, and faculty that live off campus and must commute every single day. Please think of the environment and this town's great scooter commuters before you pass these scooter regulations! Scooter commuters, like myself, rely on their scooters to get around town and campus without having to purchase a car and a parking permit, or waiting for buses that are often not on schedule. If the issue is that there is not enough parking, which I highly doubt due to the number of vacant bike racks, then build more racks, or even some specifically for mopeds. If the issue is that mopeds are being driven on campus sidewalks, I think we all know how to fix that. Just as smoking on campus was banned, the administration can also do the same for riding mopeds on the sidewalks of campus. Charging us for a motorcycle permit is ridiculous. If we are not required to have a license or a tag for the vehicle, then we should not be required to purchase a permit and park only in those (few and far between) designated spaces. Please understand our concerns as moped riders, and please do not pass these regulations.
brittany, Citizen
Ride on.
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Anastasia Kazanas, Citizen
We should be encouraging, not discouraging alternatives to the automobile. Small, clean and quiet scooters should be given preference in parking everywhere.
Kelly Wice, Student
Mary Katherine Barnes, Citizen
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Sarah Parker, Student
Increasing regulations around scooters discourages people from using more environmentally friendly modes of transportation.
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There are plenty of commuters that would switch to scooters if they know they can get free parking!
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Michael J. North, Citizen
I ride an electric scooter. If I am to be taxed do I receive electric outlets outdoors because I am now part of the "official vehicles list"?
john leonard, Citizen
Marty Dekkers, Staff
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UNC should emulate other UNC schools which don't have such strict scooter policies. Please review what UNCG, NCCU, State, UNCA, etc... are doing.
Laura Dallas, Citizen
I am a UNC alum. My husband drives a scooter and used to work on campus. It is SO much easier, cheaper, and cleaner to drive a scooter around this town. Not even to mention avoiding the parking nightmare that is downtown Chapel Hill. The officials trying to change this policy obviously did not think through the consequences of this decision.
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Scooters are an environmentally-friendly alternative to driving. The town and campus have a huge problem with congestion and a shortage of parking spaces. Requiring a parking permit for scooters is regressive. Motorcycle parking spaces are not secure, and scooters are high theft items. If scooters on walkways are a concern, then craft a regulation to specifically address that problem.
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Julian Coleman, Citizen
YOU CAN PARK 7 SCOOTERS IN THE SAME SPACE AS 1 CAR. HOW IS THE FEE FAIR?
Susan R ONeil, Citizen
scooter riders should be rewarded for conserving by not being penalized for parking
Lisa Philpotts, Staff
I don't own a scooter, but I do commute to work everyday on bicycle. I have to admit, I don't always feel the safest biking home in rush hour traffic. UNC should be encouraging students and staff to make the switch to scooters, bicycles, and buses from cars to conserve parking and reduce congestion.
CAP parking lots are free to park in and keep cars off campus, so that's a great start. Let's keep scooter parking free and secure as well, and it'll continue to be a good incentive for students and staff to make the switch to an alternative form of transportation. Everyone likes to save money!
Mark Horowitz, Citizen
Damon Toone, Staff
Shane Daugherty, Citizen
Bryan Burton, Student
Rachel, Student
Katarzyna Koncke, Student
Lucyna Sobczak, Citizen
Teresa Sanocka, Citizen
Joe Woelfling, Citizen
UNC should be encouraging scooter use in today's Green mindset. these regulation will discourage this and is not the best way to handle any traffic issues.
Angela J, Citizen
Pat Johnson, Citizen
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There are multiple reasons why scooter riders should not be required to park in motorcycle parking areas. First, there is already limited motorcycle parking. (I know because I sometimes ride my motorcycle to work.) If scooters are required to park in motorcycle parking, there will not be enough parking for motorcycles. It is entirely reasonable to ban motor scooters and mopeds from riding on sidewalks and university pathways. But it is not reasonable to require motor scooters to park in motorcycle parking. Second, UNC should be doing whatever it can to encourage transportation alternatives to cars. Allowing scooter riders to park in bicycle parking areas is a major incentive for someone to use a scooter. If scooter riders are required to park in motorcycle parking areas, some may choose not to ride a scooter. (I speak from personal experience on this issue. When the motorcycle parking that was near my office was eliminated, I stopped riding my motorcycle and starting driving my car to work.) Please re-consider the new regulations. Thanks!
Katherine-Rose Repp, Student
Julia Thompson, Citizen
Matt Kemnitz, Student
Disincentivizing the use of fuel-efficient, small parking footprint vehicles is ill-advised and does not serve the long term interests of commuters who will bear increased financial burdens, the university which will have increased congestion and parking issues, or aggregate fuel consumption. This is a step backwards, Carolina.
Tim Cupery, Student
the only possible problem I've seen with scooters is a few buildings whose bike racks no longer have room for bicycles. this regulatory response is using a steamroller to smash an ant.
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Jason Staples, Student
Scooters are not motorcycles. They should not be treated as such.
Steve Coil, Staff
Peadar Noone, Faculty
This move is against the spirit of Chapel Hill trying to go "green". This will just bring back the behemoth SUVs.....
Kristen Bell, Student
I purchased a scooter so that I could transport myself to campus without worrying about parking. I would be very upset by a change in the regulations.
David Pearson, Student
The proposed change in the scooter parking policy is poorly thought out. As a UNC motorcycle parking permit holder, i do not think creating a rush of competition for parking would be a positive action. UNC should be taking steps to encourage more two-wheeled drivers rather than making it more expensive and riddled with hassle.
Laura M., Citizen
Derek Duggan, Faculty
I call on UNC to drop this proposal, which smacks of over-regulation. There is sufficient red tape present in the current parking regulations on campus to stretch from Davis Library to Durham.
Cary Levine, Faculty
Mae Huang, Citizen
Young Lee, Student
Tiffany Wills, Student
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Darin Knapp, Faculty
We need more convenient transportation and parking options not fewer. The town and gown alike are miles away from grasping these sorts of issues and the consequences are less convenience, more frustration, and weakened security for students, faculty, shoppers alike. Consider Franklin Street's continuing decline for example. Consider also the added time (up to an hour) it takes to negotiate busses to/from campus…there are only so many hours in a day and devoting another one to non-productive activities does little to insure that my students and staff are making good use of their time. Thus the bus option rings hollow here. The security risks of the pending scooter regulations alone are enough to have nix this discussion…drivers would have fewer options to put their scooters where they want when they want. The rationale around scooters “pedestrian safety” is curious as well (what are the demonstrated risks to pedestrians again?)…one review of the deaths and injuries caused by the busses should refocus policy machinations one would think. Clearly the pending new regulations have as little rationale as they do public appeal. A sufficiently deep view into the issue suggests that if indeed the Board wishes to affirm that that "there is no reason why the university would intentionally do something unfair or inequitable," and that "there's certainly no reason to do it in this case" then just leave the status quo where it is and get onto more pressing needs of our UNC family.
Alice Kehrer, Citizen
Locking scooters is a MUST.
Douglas Moody, Citizen
Its easier to accomodate a scooter than a much larger car, both in regards to parking and road capacity.
John Haithcock, Staff
If scooters were such a safety issue with riding on the sidewalks, why aren't campus police issuing citations? For that matter, poeple shouldn't be rididng bicycles on the sidewalks. Is the university goint to provide more spaces for scooters? Is thwe university going to provide a means to secure scooters so they won't get stolen? I don't mind paying for a sticker, but applying the same rates for a motorcycle permit is not equitable. All thisis going to do is create more traffic and parking problems for everyone, and does not promote fuel conservation. This isnoting more than another way for the univerisity to make money. Since the university is trying to get people from parking on campus, this will have the opposite effect.
Keith Longiotti, Staff
I have been riding my trusty scooter to campus for four years now without incident or complaint from anyone and find the new policy nothing more than a grab for cash by the University. From the comments made by University officials in the June 11, 2009 article in The Daily Tar Heel make it sound as if hordes of scooter riders are constantly buzzing along the pedestrian walkways and displacing bicycle parking spaces. I offer the following rebuttal.
1. For the most part what I have observed and where I do park is on the fringe of campus so that there is virtually no travel along pedestrian walkways. The vast majority of scooters are parked either behind Manning Hall adjacent to the parking lot, or along Cameron Avenue.
2. The University has paid for various electric mopeds and small cars that computer support staff routinely drive on pathways to various buildings in order to maintain equipment - why is okay for them to ride these vehicles on the walkways ? Not to mention the maintenace staffs use of the John Deer "Gators" and the enlongated golf cart the crusises through campus.
3. Careless bicycle riders weaving around pedestrians along the walkway pose a much more frequent hazard and travel much faster than any scooter I have observed riding on the walkway, but this does not seem to be a concern to the DPS.
4. Scooters are not displacing bicycle parking spaces. They are parked in the vicinity of bike racks, but are often free standing as they have internal anti-theft features. Plus the fairings are usually too wide to be placed in between bikes. If parking services is so concerned about bike spaces then why can they not remove the carcasses of damaged and abandoned bikes that have been chained to the racks for over a year ?
5. Presently in the section of campus where I work, there is insufficient spaces amongst the current motorcycle parking areas. The space behind Wilson Library can accomdate perhaps 10 motorcycles and is now nearly half full. There are but 5 striped spaces next t to the Writing Center and another 5 spaces marked near the Ackland. Where do they propose the scooters be parked when the current motorcycle permit spaces are already near capacity?
I am writing this from the perspective of someone who commutes to work mostly by bicycle and scooter in all but the worst weather so I am keenly aware of the conditions for parking and travel to and around campus. When I first got my scooter it was a novelty on campus and now that they've become popular are seen as a target for revenue. It is policies like this that make me ashamed to work at UNC !
Keith Kehrer, Citizen
Carol Magee, Faculty
Catherine Nichols, Staff
Really bad idea. find to have a small permit fee but not the same cost as a motorcycle or different if you have a car permit.
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Parking for cars is already too expensive and extremely inconvenient. That's why people buy scooters - more affordable and more fuel efficient.
L. Jacobson, Staff
Samuel A. McLean, Faculty
Why would the University promote increased gas consumption and full parking lots? If the issue is not driving on paths, then make that against the rules, not the scooter. Believe it or not, the enjoyment of driving my scooter from my Chapel Hill home back and forth to campus is a major benefit of working at UNC rather than Duke.
Brandon Roane, Staff
This is ridiculous I should be able to park my scooter like a bike. What is next a tax for walking on the sidewalk. Let's be reasonable.
Danielle, Student
This is absolutely ridiculous, not to mention a virtual sanction on environmental and social degredation. Completely counter-productive to the needs of an efficient, consciencious community.
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I am opposed to any policy which undermines the use of alternative transportation methods to campus. What statistics does DPS have regarding complaints or injuries regarding on-campus use of scooters? Vehicles traveling on sidewalks and hindering access to buildings is a problem: small maintenance vehicles are frequently seen weaving through pedestrians, blocking access to building entrances and parking in fire lanes. If pedestrian safety is really the issue, perhaps new policies should address these concerns first!
Jason Baker, Citizen
(Alumnus, former member of UNC Advisory Committee on Transportation & Chapel Hill Transportation Board) The benefits of promoting alternative transportation options necessitate a thorough, open discussion of this issue with the entire university community. UNC needs to work towards a solution that encourages scooters as an option for those for whom walking, bicycling or utilizing Chapel Hill Transit are not feasible.
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Thomas Cox, Student
The proposed regulation is counterproductive since it provides a disincentive to use a vehicle that gets 110 miles per gallon instead of 18.
The proposed regulation is unfair and onerous since it punishes those who are already paying for parking a car by tacking on a surcharge for also parking a scooter.
The proposed regulation is inequitable in its timing. Trying to pass it during the summer,when so few of the campus community are in residence, is denying them their right to be heard. If this regulation were proposed during the fall sememester, there might well be 1,200 or more signatures on this petition, perhaps 2,000 or more.
The opposition to this regulation is broad-based, and comes not just from scooter owners, but from people who simply approve of scooters as an environmentally friendly mode of transportation. Please do not put obstacles and disincentives in the way of those who are simply trying to do the right thing.
Robert, Student
I think it is ridiculous that they are trying to pass this with so little transparency. I was planning on buying a scooter to save some gas money and for commuting to campus and almost did before a friend told me about the new proposed regulations. If they must, pass a law to prevent driving on the sidewalks but to enforce parking restrictions??
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Meaghan Roach, Student
We should be encouraging scooter use, as they are much more eco-friendly than the alternative that UNC is leadinh us to: cars.
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Danita Thomas, Staff
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Ray Whitaker, Staff
Tim West, Staff
Laura Clark Brown, Staff
Please keep Chapel Hill and the campus scooter friendly. We should encourage scooters, not penalize the riders.
Gary Stevens, Staff
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Diana Haithcock, Citizen
This is just another way to get money without providing any service in return. Everywhere you turn, someone is trying to find a way to squeeze more money out of students, employees and hospital patients. With the economy as bad as it is, a PUBLIC institution of higher learning should be promoting green transporation alternatives.
Phillip Mazarick, Staff
Let's all say exactly what this is. It is not an attempt to make campus sidewalks safer but rather another money grab by DPS to fund it's empire.
Alison Murray, Staff
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Justin Stepney, Citizen
Mandy Black, Staff
This is an outrage!
Mark Tieckersen, Student
I agree with Mr. Gordon. Passing this law is certainly a regressive policy and one the board of trustees should be ashamed of.
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Ashley Mui, Student
Vicki Quintana, Citizen
I believe this policy would punish those who have chosen more environmentally friendly modes of transportation. It is unfair and unwanted.
Cara Wittekind, Citizen
I would like to see UNC live up to its ideal of conservation by continuing to incentivize alternate modes of transportation.
Ashley Clair, Student
This is a ridiculous way to punish those that are trying to be environmentally conscious.
tara montanez, Citizen
Amy Gunter, Staff
Kelsey Ice, Citizen
Kaitlin Strauss, Student
Lauren Leve, Faculty
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Chapel Hill's reputation as an environmentally-friendly community is built on taking an appropriate stand on these types of issues, for the greater good. BOT, I hope you'll see your way to make the right decision.
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Jonathan Reis, Student
Hannah Riddle, Student
Janese Newton, Citizen
Amanda Moffett, Student
Scooters are a useful transportation alternative for a large portion of the campus community, forcing scooter users to compete for the very few motorcycle parking spaces available on campus will end this opportunity for a flexible and cost-effective means of transportation.
Juliana Longiotti, Citizen
Chapel Hill resident
Susan C Burt, Staff
Put the onus on those scooter owners (and bicyclists!) who ride on sidewalks and otherwise endanger pedestrians and others; take care of the problem instead of inconveniencing responsible and eco-minded owners who should be encouraged and accomodated for their efforts. At any rate, we need more motorcycle racks available if you want scooters off the sidewalks. It's the only way to reach the bike racks where we're currently supposed to be parking.
Geoff Sayre-McCord, Faculty
Stephen Gamboa, MD, MPH, Faculty
Theresa Stone, Staff
Patrick Connolly, Student
Matthew Kotzen, Faculty
There is no good reason to be discouraging the use of a convenient, cheap, and environmentally friendly alternative to cars.
Seth Bordner, Student
Emily Given, Student
Cathay Liu, Student
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There just aren't enough parking spaces for all the scooters & motorcycles!
Nathaniel P. Sharadin, Student
Jana Clever, Citizen
Amber Ross, Student
Riding a scooter to campus saves us money both on gas and on rent, since riding to campus allows us to live further out and avoid the exorbitantly high cost of housing within walking distance of UNC. Please take into consideration that most of the students on whom you're imposing these fees simply can't afford them. If scooters on campus have been a nuisance, there are other options for dealing with them- create secure parking near the streets for scooters, or allow us to walk our scooters to the bike racks. It doesn't make sense to impose a that will prohibit us from riding to campus entirely.
Jennifer Thomasen, Student
This is ridiculous! I'm not on a busline and bought a scooter so I could get to/from campus without a problem. This defeats the whole purpose!
Eva Hoffman, Student
Jason Bowers, Student
I am a graduate student in the philosophy department, and I oppose the economic exploitation of scooter-bound students. A university is NOT a business. Its staff does NOT have the right to impose fines for the purpose of profit.
Christian Mibelli, Student
Alerie S, Citizen
Vikki P, Citizen
Sarah E, Citizen
Yeah... because there's so much free parking for all those people that are going to start driving cars now. Common people! Make some policies that are actually USEFUL and make life easier not more difficult
Lindsey, Citizen
Cheryl S, Citizen
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Kate, Student
this new policy is b/s
Worth Williamson, Student
Mike Carroll, Staff
Jennie Dickson, Staff
Kristen, Citizen
David Neil Hayes, Student
I would be happy to write a description of why I ride a scooter, and I suspect it is a common situation. My alternative transportation is to drive. Scooters decrease traffic and parking congestion and are 3-5 times more fuel efficient. These regulations will decrease the likihood that I continue to ride my scooter. They will prevent others from choosing a scooter option. I think increased niche use of scooters in a place like Chapel Hill could result in more widespread adoption and favorable ecologic outcomes. These regulations are not in the interest of Chapel Hill or the environment.
David Neil Hayes, Faculty
My previous entry has an error - I am faculty not student
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I agree that students should not ride their scooters on the sidewalks, but they should be allowed to park them for free using bike racks. Please punish those who abuse their rights and not those trying to make a positive impact on the environment and/or trying to cut expenses so that they can live. I don't own a scooter but I've never been negatively affected by anyone who does. What I have found is that those who are scooter users generally are more conscientious and responsible than the rest of us.
Garrett Lagan, Student
UNC recently announced its plans to cut energy use and achieve "climate neutrality" by 2050. Does the universities right hand know what the left is doing? If the school doesn't want students driving scooters on the sidewalks then they ought to issue tickets, if parking at the bike racks is an issue (and as a biker I can promise that it's not) then charge a registration fee and use the proceeds to build scooter specific racks. If the school is really just looking to collect more money what should we expect next, mandatory bike registration?
ReJean DeVaux, Citizen
Way to take a win win situation and make it intolerable, bravo d-bags. Just because you can see one more item to squeeze some money out of, doesn't mean you should.
Patrick Cooper, Citizen
Courtney Buley, Student
David Frost, Student
Scooters are green!
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I am totally against the current proposal to regulates scooter parking on the UNC-Chapel Hill Campus.
I drive a scooter to work and obey all NC State traffic laws.
Historically, I have ridden a bicycle to work and do not have a car parking pass. I started to drive a scooter to work due to an injury that prevents me from riding my bike. Use of the scooter allows me access my building and others on campus without the need for a handy cap parking pass. The new proposal to restrict scooter parking on campus would increase the risk of my scooter being stolen and limit my ability to access my office and attend meeting across campus.
Please reconsider this proposal
Deborah Nichols, Citizen
Justin Ainsworth, Citizen
Anthony Tiberio, Student
Lisa Bobst, Staff
Justin Lohman, Student
Please don't inconvenience people that are making responsible transportation choices. Thanks.
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Maryssa L, Citizen
Jack Huge, Citizen
Matt Huge, Citizen
Daniel E, Citizen
Chapel Hill has enough parking issues.
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Please don't stop scooters. They are a great alternate transportation and part of the character of the town and the university
Jane Kerwin, Citizen
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Richard Bobst, Citizen
these changes make no sense
Anne Corrigan, Staff
Brad Haver, Citizen
Joshua Higgin, Student
Let the scooters park where they want.
Alvaro Gomez, Staff
The UNiversity should ENCOURAGE scooter use, not penalize riders!
Becca Branovacki, Citizen
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Before you enact this regulation, you should decide if you have enough motorcycle parking spots for the new demand. Also, the pricing structure should be adjusted because most scooter users cannot afford another form of transportation.
We are all trying to get to our work or school and this regulation will make that harder and may force some of the current or prospective community to work/study at an organization that supports efficiencies; efficient use of time (my scooter saves me 40 minutes a day); efficient fuel consumption; and efficient use of university space.
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Scooters help the environment, cause less traffic, and provide more available parking spaces. The regulations should be changed.
T.S. Melki MD, Citizen
Ben Davis, Staff
If UNC continues to eliminate parking lots and touts a commitment to "greener" communiting, then they MUST stop this scooter policy. They should give benefits to commuters using alternatives to auto transportation, not make them pay more. SHAME on UNC.
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Roy Dawson, Student
I recently purchased a scooter after visiting unc and watching people use what I view as an eco-friendly, fun, and economical mode of transportation. I will be transfering in to Carolina in August, and hopefully the Board of Trustees will allow me bring my scooter.
sergio chavez, Staff
if new parking regulations are enacted, the university must provide spots that will allow riders to lock their scooters to some object that will prevent theft.
Cameron Hartofelis, Citizen
Sarah Palmer, Citizen
Barbara Ambros, Faculty
Maia Call, Student
Rachel Kingston, Citizen
Support eco-friendly transportation alternatives and don't discourage scooter riders by forcing this regulation on them.
Seana Monley, Student
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Placing a 50cc scooter in a motorcycle parking area may lead to increased theft as these machines are considerably lighter in weight than motorcycles. I have personally had a scooter stolen from a parking space even though the wheels were locked with a cable...they simply lifted it into the back of a truck. Scooters are great for reducing vehicular traffic on our streets and in campus...we need to support them further rather than impose restrictions.
Christopher Cronin, Student
Phil Ciminelli, Citizen
The damage done by minimal increased revenue over a strong ecological future will have lasting effect on University policy and the surrounding community.
I suggest a review of the ride-to-work.org - transportation fact sheet will help people understand the benefits of two wheeled transportation.
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I often work at night and the bike racks are close to my building. I would not feel as safe having to walk to a designated parking space. PLEASE DO NOT require parking in designated spots. I am willing to pay for a permit and understand not being able to drive on the sidewalk, but PLEASE(!!!) ALLOW us to continue to park at the bike racks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is an ENORMOUS amount of money to charge for scooter parking, especially when compared to other Universities. Shame on them for making the price so high. How much of that gas money saved is now redirected to the University?
Nicholas Boyd, Student
Kamila LaBerge, Student
Nathalie Donaghy, Student
I'm very upset by these new regulations! The whole reason I bought a scooter was because I could conveniently park anywhere on campus and with these new laws, I'll have to pay more and be inconvenienced.
Brian Matthew, Student
Megan Mitchell, Student
Deborah Jones, Faculty
Faculty and students have busy meeting and class schedules across campus which often do not correspond to the bus schedules. Scooters provide an environmentally-friendly way to get from one part of campus to another. UNC should be advocating the use of scooters, rather than penalize those who have found them to be an efficient and environmentally-conscious method of transportation.
Andrew Laramore, MD, Staff
Phillip Barbee, Student
Mac Baker, Student
Cliff Barbee, Citizen
Nicholas Alexandre Cato, Student
Enacting eco-friendly policies on campus is paramount toward providing students with a clean future. By encouraging scooter ownership, the UNC Board of Trustees can stand behind a mode of transportation that reduces traffic, relieves over-crowded buses, allows for available parking and most importantly reduces our carbon footprint. It would be advantageous for the Board of Trustees to encourage scooter use for the sake of the students, the Chapel Hill community and the future.
Robert \"B.J.\" Anderson, Student
Roberta Weinberg, Citizen
Dustin Gibson, Staff
If scooters are charged a parking permit, charge everyone that rides a bike!
Elizabeth Beauvais, Faculty
Taylor Deaton, Student
Scoot or die.
T. Borras, Faculty
UNC wants to be a scooter-friendly campus. It is just good for its air, its traffic and time saving of its staff. Most important, it is very good for its image as an avant-garde university. OK if regulated, though. It should be pretty simple to build a few extra racks on a corner of every bike-rack space. My Vespa has reached 10K miles, just from coming to work. And…UNC should think that riding it every day has given me much extra time to write grants…which in turn, have brought back a lot of money to the school.
Derek Easley, Citizen
I, an alumnus, strongly appose the proposed scooter policy.
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If safety is the issue, then focus on scooters on sidewalks, not parking. If the lack of bike racks is an issue, then provide designated scooter parking spaces, which frankly are the cheapest amongst cars and bicycle parking lots. This could actually be the way to go as scooter parking spaces can potentially house more scooters neatly and safely and free up the bike racks which are ill designed for parking scooters.
The initial additional cost could come from sources design to minimize car traffic on campus. Encourage the use of scooters and bicycles, in place of cars. Depending on where one resides, Chapel Hill may just be too hilly for cycling. Imposing a huge parking fee on scooters may actually backfire the policy to reduce car traffic.
Jonathan Kirsch, Faculty
Scooters are efficient, decrease traffic and should be encouraged on campus, not penalized. UNC needs to show that it is a proactive partner for sensible transportation and a steward of the environment by encouraging bicycles and scooters.
Ramona Hutton-Howe, Staff
Since scooters take up space at bike racks, owners should pay the same fee as bike riders. Oh! That would make it zero. Scooters should be encouraged, not discouraged.
Carlin StepensBarnes, Staff
I think its unfair for paid scooter parking, their more environmentally friendly than car/bus. They should be given some consideration.
Nekeisha Alston, Staff
I think that if people are trying to be environmentally sound they should be rewarded for their efforts rather than penalized.
Kelly Stepanek, Staff
Scooters should be allowed to park for free at bike racks. They are not considered motorcycles, nor do they travel on expressways. UNC should be doing more to promote alternative transportation, not penalizing people for it.
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We shouldn't be punished for choosing a more eco-friendly means of transportation. If they decide to go through with this, they're creating a parking problem that won't be worth what they'll be collecting from us.
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Jim Rokos, Student
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I had bought a new scooter in the beginning of summer, and a week later you came up with that undereducated proposal.
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eric sim, Student
these regulations are pointless...scooters are more efficient, and environmentally friendly...what kind of example is this setting?
David Curl, Staff
These regulations are unjust and we need to have further dialogue on the matter.
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Silas Webb, Citizen
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Mark Chilton, Citizen
Great work on reducing the fees - even if the rules are not perfect. Keep the dialogue going. Scooters reduce air pollution, traffic congestion and parking problems!
Jan Hannig, Faculty
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Masi Katawazai, Student
We need our scooters who live further away from the main campus and to have a way to get to our jobs off campus.
Jim Gulledge, Student
Please allow students unfettered access to the cheapest and greenest form of transportation around.
Peter Houpt, Citizen
Stephen Kleinschmit, Citizen
I am a graduate student at NC State, and found that scooters are the most convenient, efficient, and least costly option for making it to class and work. Promoting their use is a much more economcal use of funds than constructing new parking decks, and perhaps even new buses. I have done some coursework at UNC, and know the layout of the campus is perhaps not as optimal for access than States (which is why there is a lot of people riding on sidewalks). I would encourage UNC transportation services to incorporating scooter friendly design into their future infrastructure initiatives.
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This is completely regressive and unheard of on other campuses, towns and cities.
Emily Bunner, Student
I made a choice to find transportation that was more environmentally responsible. Scooter theft is already a serious issue, and this regulation will lead to drastically reduced security for these energy efficient vehicles.
Jennifer Kanzelberger, Student
Joao Ritter, Student
This is ridiculous. Parking will no longer be convenient for scooters or motorcycles. The current motorcycle drivers will have their designated MC parking spots full with crowds of scooters. This is inconvenient for everyone. No student believes scooters were a safety issue or were bothered by having them in bike racks. This is ridiculous. GIVE US SCOOTER RIDERS FREE, CONVENIENT PARKING!
Matt Gawthrop, Faculty
Does UNC support Global Warming and the current Blood for Oil Conquest? Why dissuade those willing to commit to clean, alternative energy? This is pure conservative cosmetics and classism at its best!
Yousuf Al-Bulushi, Student
These new rules make no sense, this will only discourage people from bringing scooters to campus and instead encourage more car usage.
Jessica Dilday, Student
I'm going to be using a scooter for the semester, and I already feel really good about riding it around town, instead of a gas-guzzling car. I wish UNC would share my appreciation for these eco-friendly scooters, instead of discouraging me from using it by imposing fees. Fees that will come from my tiny little pockets into UNC's large enough pocket, a pocket which holds a ton of my money already.
prem, Student
Thanks for all of your work with a group pleas look forward in the world not only UNC in a world a lot of problem .
Cameron, Student
I could care less about fees. Convenience is what matters to me. Scooters that can park at bike racks are convenient. The car parking lot is closer to my campus destination than the "designated scooter parking." Why ride my scooter if I can park my car closer?
Fisher Coan, Student
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Caitlynne Zolzer, Student
Part of the joy of having a 50cc scooter is NOT being subjected to the same or similar rules as motorcycles. By requiring scooters to have a permit and park only in designated spots, the university is depriving scooter owners of the freedoms of having a scooter in the first place. I full-heartedly reject these new rules and refuse to pay for a permit. If anything, UNC should be thanking scooter owners for being environmentally conscious and not clogging their already packed parking spaces.
Joel Thomas, Citizen
This subject deserves more analysis before the new rule(s) is enacted, to be fair to all parties involved. Mopeds require no driver's license, so should be treated differently from motorcycles.
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Alumna as well as citizen. This seems like another needless regulation at UNC, and an unfortunate discouragement to more environmentally-friendly methods of transportation. They are probably doing this just to raise money. There are other ways to raise money, and they should be encouraging students, staff, and faculty to make better decisions about the environment, rather than make it more difficult.
Jonathan Todd, Student